It has been mentioned in some circles that Southport RFC is the 10th oldest club in England.
However this appears to be a myth probably based on a list of rugby union clubs in the British Isles below, which excluded Public Schools as they cannot be considered clubs, published by the Athletic News in 1922 at the request of Clifton RFC which like Southport was also formed in 1872. This showed Southport as one of the tenth oldest clubs in England, and twelfth in the British Isles.
1843 Guy's Hospital
1856 Dublin University
1858 Edinburgh Academicals
1860 Blackheath
1861 Sale, Richmond
1866 Harlequins, Wasps
1867 Liverpool, Manchester
1869 Brighton*
1872 Clifton, Southport + 17 others (13 in England) - see below
However the historian at Clifton has since established that there were several major omissions from this list. Excluding Publics Schools, clubs that no longer exist, and clubs that now play rugby league, but allowing for mergers he has come up with the correct verified dates as follows:
1843 Guy's Hospital
1854 Dublin University
1857 Liverpool, Edinburgh Academicals
1858 Blackheath
1860 Manchester
1861 Sale, Richmond
1863 Civil Service
1865 Bath, West of Scotland
1866 Harlequins, Glasgow Academicals
1867 Wasps, Twickenham
1868 North, Brighton, Kilmarnock, Edinburgh Wanderers
1869 Kings College Hospital, Queens University, Oxford University, Preston Grasshoppers
1870 Ipswich, Dublin Wanderers, Burton
1871 Ealing, Streatham, Neath, Old Paulines, Langholm
1872 Clifton, Southport + others - see below
*The team listed as Brighton under 1869 in the earlier list may in fact be Broughton the Salford club founded in this year. Brighton, omitted from this list, is correctly included in the second list as being founded in 1868. For some reason Broughton is not mentioned.
Sadly, this moves Southport down the pecking order somewhat to only being amongst the twentieth or twenty-first oldest clubs in England, thirty-second or third in the British Isles. Even then, as Southport was formed late in the year we are likely to be lower but notwithstanding this there is no doubt that looking through the names on the list the club is in esteemed company.
Mind you, if the merger between Liverpool and St Helens (see below) is disregarded, according to this list Southport can rightfully claim to be the oldest rugby club in Merseyside. Depending on the actual date Bolton was formed also the fourth or fifth oldest in the North West behind Manchester, Sale and Preston Grasshoppers.
Notes:
For further detail visit www.cliftonrfchistory.co.uk. Most of the above has been gleaned from here and it is great to share a year in history with such a treasure trove of information.
However, Clifton actually pre-date us having been founded a couple of months before Southport on 27th September 1872. They have an excellent Historian in Patrick Casey and his website is widely acknowledged as the largest rugby history site in the world. Well worth a visit!
We do have some links with Clifton though. The nephew of one of Southport RFC legends and past president Jack Glassberg, Jonathan Glassberg, is an old-boy of Clifton College which has close links with the rugby club. Jonathans father Eric also played for Southport. First team stalwart and minis coach Henry Brain is an old boy of the college.
RUGBY CLUBS FORMED IN 1872
As far as I have been able to ascertain to date Southport is one of fifteen rugby clubs in England and another nine across the rest of the world formed during 1872 that are still in existence:
ENGLAND:
Bolton
Bromsgrove
Cambridge University
Clifton
Durham City
Lutterworth
Middlesbrough
Painswick
Penryn
Percy Park
Southport
Weymouth
Wiveliscombe
Yarnbury
Plus former Rugby Union team:
Wigan (Warriors)
Notes:
REST OF THE WORLD
Goulburn (Australia)
Harvard (USA)
Heidelberger (Germany)
Le Havre (France)
Lansdowne (Ireland)
Llanelli (Wales)
Swansea (Wales)- but see comment earlier
University College Cork (Ireland)
Wanganui (New Zealand)
1872 Rugby Trivia
The ‘founding father’ of rugby (see CLUB CHRONOLOGY PRE-1872) William Webb Ellis died a bachelor in Menton, France leaving £9,000 to charitable causes including the society for the rescue of young women and children, and the residue to the widow of his brother Thomas. His tomb was rediscovered in 1958 by a local journalist and former rugby player Roger Dries and an Englishman Ross McWhirter.
The first Oxford verses Cambridge game was played on 10th February. Oxford win by 1 goal to nil. This fixture became known as the 'Varsity' match.
The original Edinburgh district team played the first ever inter-district match against Glasgow, winning the match 3-0. The modern clubs, formed to compete in the Heineken Cup, now compete over two legs for the 1872 Cup to celebrate the first meeting of Scotland’s two great cities, reputedly the oldest derby match in the sport.
Other sport clubs founded in 1872:
Corinthian Yacht Club (Erith)
Glasgow Rangers
Monmouthshire Polo Club
Southport 1872 Trivia
Christiana Hartley was born 1872, the daughter of Sir William Pickles Hartley who founded Hartley’s Jam the year before. In 1928 she proposed the construction of a Maternity Hospital for the town, which was opened in May 1932 (the clubs 60th year) adjoining Southport Infirmary on the other side of Scarisbrick New Road from the now built over site of the clubs second ground (see Grounds Through the Ages). Many of the clubs players over the years will have been born here. Hartley's Jam is now part of Premier Foods.
Birkdale Town Hall was built in 1872 at the corner of York Road and Weld Road. It comprised one of three distinctive Victorian buildings along with the adjoining Police Station and Carnegie Library which were demolished in the 1970s and replaced by the block of flats and parade of shops with offices above.
St Peters Church, Birkdale was consecrated in 1872, preceded by a school chapel in 1870.
The Southport Tramways Order of 1872 authorised the construction of Southport's first horse tramway. Opened on 31st May 1873, it ran from Churchtown Station, southwest to Birkdale Station, travelling via Mill Lane, Roe Lane and Lord Street and was operated by the Southport Tramways Company. It would have passed by the clubs first ground.
P Karmy & Sons established in 1872. Located in Wayfarers Arcade the owners are fourth generation Southport jewellers. Other companies formed in the same year include The Co-operative Bank and Zurich Financial Services
There is a Royal Visit to the town as the Duke and Duchess of Teck take a stroll down the Pier.
Birkdale farm School, a Roman Catholic reformatory for boys was opened at the extreme southern boundary of Birkdale township in 1872, isolated amongst sandhills. It later became known as St Thomas More's School but was closed and in 2012 was demolished for the site to be developed as a hosing estate by Bellway Homes.
Article shared originally on the Southport RFC website in 2012. Words by the late great, Graham Ellis.